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Is zigzagging across hex lines an exploit?

Ravenlute
If changes are being made to your buffs/debuffs (which they are) then there needs to be a visible sign of that hex boundry in-game. Being forced to run around with your map open to avoid those hex fights (in PvE as well as PvP) is not very player friendly.
Myl - Herald of Stone Bear Clan (Tavernhold)
"You can walk into Tavernhold but a horse will have to carry you out."
Bringslite
Agreed. It might be immersion breaking to see it on your screen, but if only on the mini map, the resolution is too far out to be any good to us. Besides, it would be a nice warning to players of all "time in" status to have a clear idea that a certain hex is currently a conflict zone.
Virtute et Armis
-Unknown
Bob
Crossing a hex border for no other purpose than to trigger a clear bug (such as dropping debuffs) and use that to your advantage, would be an exploit. Don't do it.
Mistwalker
Thank you
Paddy Fitzpatrick
So next question,

How do you prove it was intentional?

You could have a guy who isn't paying attention to his map or something run out and do it and look exactly like a guy who is doing it intentionally.

For example:

- I'm trying to bandit someone, I said stick em up, and don't run or fight, and they made the poor life decision of running. They are running as fast as they can and they cross the border of a hex and all my slowing and whatnot is undone. Problem is there is no way to know if he is doing this knowingly or not since the action will look identical. The only way I will know is if the person is already known to be shady ahead of time.

- In a heated battle near a hex border people could easily jump in and out without thinking about it. Now of course there is someone is straddling the line constantly and zig zagging the very minute they get a debuff then yeah that's obvious BS.

However, other times when just moving around or trying to either get away or get to the next target they could still go in and out of hex borders. So what bout the times where it may not be so clear cut which is which?
Paddy Fitzpatrick - Rí Ruírec of Fianna, roaming bands of noble warriors!
Member of the Kathalpas Coalition and home of bandits, privateers, and anyone looking to get away from the shackles of law.
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Decius
The best way to support an allegation of something like that is with video. Most cases of crossing hex lines will clearly be someone running to/away from something other than the border, and most cases of someone crossing multiple borders will clearly be someone running to cross the border. Edge cases (no pun intended) can be evaluated using all available information, just like everything else.
Bringslite
Its not possible to prove. There will be accusations and witch burning(metaphorical) unless everyone just tries to fight closer to the center of hexes. Anyone fleeing banditry, is certainly going to be crossing hex borders. Any bandits fleeing retribution are certainly going to be crossing hex borders.
A Decius says, video of short term(engagement length) moments is about it. Since probably most players do not video capture everything they do, expect some accusations and heated "discussions".
How Fun!
Virtute et Armis
-Unknown
Midnight
People who flee are bound to cross hex borders, since they would want to be far away from a place that became unsafe.

Behind the person who jumped you.. are quite possibly a crowd of her friends.

We simply can't expect someone to remain in a hex while the pursuer is calling more reinforcements to the hex.

That being said, zigzagging isn't explained by simple flight and would look really bad when captured on video.
He who wrestles with us strengthens our nerves and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper.
-Edmund Burke
Maxen
And, Bob said don't do it. So, don't do it. If you're guilty of this specific action in the past, it's in the past. Don't include it as part of your strategy in the future. We will all cross hex borders during PvP at some point. It happens. But intentional zigzagging as an exploit should not happen again. Case closed.
Paddy Fitzpatrick
Bringslite
Its not possible to prove. There will be accusations and witch burning(metaphorical) unless everyone just tries to fight closer to the center of hexes. Anyone fleeing banditry, is certainly going to be crossing hex borders. Any bandits fleeing retribution are certainly going to be crossing hex borders.
A Decius says, video of short term(engagement length) moments is about it. Since probably most players do not video capture everything they do, expect some accusations and heated "discussions".
How Fun!

Well, if it gets to the point where we cant trust pvpers not to be total fuckwits and we all gotta have video recording constantly ready at all fucking times, then we got much bigger issues than zig zagging exploits.

I mean seriously how hard can it be not to act like a Heroes of Newerth player?

(For those who dont know, HoN was basically a faster paced DOTA back in its heyday. Great gameplay, hilariously over the top, but the community is one of the worst gaming communities in existence, even by MOBA standards).
Paddy Fitzpatrick - Rí Ruírec of Fianna, roaming bands of noble warriors!
Member of the Kathalpas Coalition and home of bandits, privateers, and anyone looking to get away from the shackles of law.
Find us on PFO Discord
 
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