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All posts created by Azure_Zero

Then I think Edam's got the cost Just right.

That sounds Very reasonable. Edam.
Oh a note for increasing WINE compatibility for the Windows version of PFO, should the Linux version be canned/shelved.
Change the Windows version rendering core from DirectX to OpenGL.
It'll remove the problems WINE has with DirectX 10 and up that the latest versions of Unity uses.
1 - Is it really a necessary mechanic when there are so few playing the game at this time?
2 - What does it even accomplish as far as "enjoyment" of time spent in game, at this time?
3 - Is the original intent for a "support mechanic" a valid enough reason for it to be a part of the game, at this time?
4 - Would it really hurt anything to put off the "support mechanic", at this time, until the population is healthy enough to make it more enjoyable and serve it's original purpose?

1) Still is, reason is in answer 4
2) pride that you HAVE that support or thankful for the current support you have.
3) Still does AS IT IS PART OF THE GAME, would you like it if every class was removed from the game because one person wanted the game to be just a crafting sim with No combat, no escalation, nothing but crafting.
4) Best to keep it in, otherwise people WILL B**** REALLY HARD once it comes back. So best to Keep it in and nip potential backlash when the pop gets big enough to put it back in, that the new players leave the game and we get back to square one.


Note on mobilization readiness,
It can happen at Any time, look at the attacks on some the of the Nations and settlements that existed or still exist in PFO.
If you don't want to be prepared, you take the risks.


Talonguard, I know for a fact has 3 different active players, others I've not seen so I can't say if it is more.
You are a Troll
Bob, while you are busy helping people (even more) to avoid risk and drudgery could you please lower the influence cost for feuds? As some have mentioned, there is literally nothing going on in this game except (at this point) mind numbingly boring PvE in escalations and gushers. Maybe if it wasn't so painfully expensive to just *declare a feud* as you like to say companies should do to get around the absurdity of High Sec hexes there would be an uptick in dynamic play in the game.
Speaking of that, and not in any way with negatives toward your request, what is/are the costs for feuding (in all forms) at this time? It would be really informative and facilitative having the info in one spot. MUCH more easy to discuss things when we know what we are talking about…. I'm pretty ignorant on the current state of feud costs.

Cost of feuds is about 200->300 Influence.
So a Complete +0 Holding and +0 Outposts controlled hex to the cost of a complete +1 Holding and +1 Outposts controlled hex

Not a bad point guys and full kudos to you if you find it "fun enough" to pull Bulk that it does not wear on your ability to enjoy the game. Not everyone agrees with you, but the dwindling population that does… well I hope that you guys can stick it out for the long haul.

I am simply trying to point out that it isn't fun for everyone under the sun and I think that a partial or total suspension of "Support" would not be a bad idea while there is hardly anyone playing right now. At the current player level, it isn't critical OR needed that we COULD be able to take over other settlements. Probably more complicated than I know to set all settlement requirements to zero, for the time being, but I think that it might be a good idea. It's more about offering ideas to turn "playing the game" from LESS FUN ways right now, until MORE FUN ways to play the game are available. Balance of playing experiences vs. chore experiences. I know that, given time, the game will get there but it isn't even going to be within the next year that point is reached.

there are OTHER answers then asking the Devs to remove support so you don't have bulk movement troubles.
Here are 7 options;
1) Ask your Settlement/Nation mates HELP you with the Bulk chores
(or you can go full Dictator and kinda force them to do it with the threat of being ejected from settlement and or settlement is lowered until they do the work, though not recommended at all).
2) Pay a Player to do the Chores for You, likely someone who already is doing the bulk movement crap.
3) Compromise and lower your Settlement Support to level 16, it is MORE then Good enough for Combat and Crafting and saves a Ton on Bulk resources.
4) ONLY HAVE ONE Company (per settlement if more then one) that has all the holdings.
5) Not Moving Bulk to Company Vaults when feuded, let the raiders take some.
6) If you have multiple settlements, give them away to those that want one and or Abandon them completely.
7) Abandon and or give away every settlement you control completely, and then join another settlement.

I RUN TWO SETTLEMENTS BY MYSELF, so I know where your coming from, But I don't support the removal of the Support system Full or partial.
When the +X building upgrade costs and DI systems information was released, I weighed a number of a number of factors and went for a settlement limit compromise I could handle knowing what a +5 level 20 supported settlement would REALLY entail as a cost, and made plans with My Holdings so that I'd have as Little Work to do with holdings as possible.
You can do the same, and the work gets a lot easier.
Asking the Devs to make it easier with support removal (Full or Partial) is not a even a good answer for the health of the game.



Under current conditions, chores like Settlement Support are a burden to the game rather than an enjoyable experience. It is like being forced to be at mobilization level 100% ALL THE TIME even though there is no war threat.

Does War ever start for everyone involved at scheduled time in RL, it does not, that is why "military forces are always at the ready".
The scheduled PVP windows is the only real break we have on the "military forces are always at the ready" part of RL.
I think the Auto-caravan needs to be thought out more, and I agree that has one or two points that I agree with, the rest for me is a different setup.

Auto-Caravans have settings controlled at the company AND settlement level to avoid pulling cheap tricks at a company level.
The Auto-Caravans should be tied a good degree to the PVP settings of the settlement.
In that the Auto-Caravan uses the Start window time to launch the Mules and that the settlement chooses either a Day before PVP, or a Day After PVP for the Mule to run and that it is set for the Week.

Company Level will be whether it is On or Off (Default is on, so even dead companies can start pulling their weight again),
a Encumbrance control for those that want to increase mule Load sacking Mule speed when it hits over 100% encumbrance.(Default and Min is 100%, Max is 150%)
and a Graphical UI for Route Planning and the Plans are always locked in for the start of the Week.

Something I should put out there is that the Hex security setting controls the speed of the Mule, in that Higher Security means a Slower Mule, and Lower Security means a Faster the Mule.

The Mule itself has NO protection except when it is IN town or NEAR the Holding's own Guards, and the Mule CAN BE ATTACKED NO MATTER the Security of the Hex. The Reason for this setup is like that of the PVP windows and watching for Monster Raids on holdings.

Now I think it would be great to for there to be a Route Planner for the Auto-Caravan using a Graphical UI, and that the Number of Mules is equal to the Value of the Keep itself, so +0 Keep = 0 Mule(s), +5 Keep = 5 Mule(s) and or
the Mule's Tier is also tied to the Keep, with +0, +1, +2 Keeps sending T1 Mule(s), +3 and +4 Keeps sending T2 Mule(s) and +5 Keeps sending T3 Mule(s).
Now to make it harder for Raids and decrease the time for all the holdings to be emptied, a Mule(s) can spawn at Any Holding that is +2 or higher, and the number of mules is assigned via graphical UI.

Though for Companies of Less with holdings the planner is auto set to outer first, then inner.
Agreed, Moving Bulk in NOT fun.
And Would be better if there was folks to help do the burden of moving the bulk around.

Caravans might be a good answer especially if we could also get the bulk from the Dead companies that still have holdings and no one running the company.
Now I do recall there was talk of making a caravan option for moving the bulk resources.
If you need Bulk resources, you can buy or trade bulk from a Keepers of the High Covenant settlement.
Thanks. I don't. Just sick of having to move them so far.

I know what you mean, it is a pain to move them around.
It's one reason why I go for the self-sufficient holding-outpost combinations when I can,
and suck it up when I have to supply external bulk to the Holdings that require it.
That and the mule runs for it all takes hours to do, to the point where I reserve a day for complete bulk resource moving.