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Azure_Zero
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Boosting small settlements incentives keeping a settlement small. Boosting large settlements encourages small settlements to grow so they can get the benefits of the larger settlements.

"Two large settlements in the game" is also a bit naive. TSV, KP, TEO and Hammerfall will never converge into one settlement. We all have very different play styles and settlement-level personalities that work great in an alliance- but not with us all under one roof. Moreover, if everyone joins into two large settlements, then training in the roles that are not covered by those 2 settlements will be stuck at Rank 8. Incentivizing larger settlements might force folks in small settlements to "join" larger settlements for the time being. But as the game grows, the larger settlements will need to shed players and the smaller settlements will be the first to depart for their homecoming.

Their needs to be a mechanic to help attract new players to the smaller settlements.

As for the larger the settlements it is the easier to recruit new players. This is due to many new players looking for the largest settlement that meets their profile. As the larger settlements will be guaranteed to full-fill most their psychological needs (shelter, safety, belonging, and esteem), while the smaller ones can only provide at best one to two psychological needs (shelter, and (Safety or Belonging)). Now that is one factor that effects the recruitment.

Many smaller settlements have to work many times harder just for one new member, where a single recruitment message from a large settlement one can net like 3 recruits.

Hence you need to tilt things in favor of smaller settlements.

You should also note the equation for settlement level I gave is non-linear.
Settlement_Level = 6 + ( N_Towers / ( round_up ( Total_Settlement_Pop / 50 )));

If a small settlement takes to many towers they will not have the numbers to hold them,
they will get have easier time holding levels, but the loss of a single tower would be very bad.

Say settlement A of 40 holds 4 towers ( level 10 ) they can hold their towers well, but a single lost tower will damage their settlement. They also might get greedy and take a tower from another (say b) who then later steals all of A's towers and holds them hard, dealing a big blow to the settlement ( level 6 ).

Now settlement B with 80 players holds 4 towers ( level 8 ), and they want to level up their settlement, Now A stole two towers from them and they then stole them back with interest now holding 8 towers ( level 10 ), B now overpowers A in level and numbers because A had an opportunity to recruit with their higher level, but did not do so.

You see the sword is double sided for both smaller and larger companies.
Smaller companies can use the level mechanic to recruit people in, but also know that a single tower taken or gained has big impacts, as you get bigger the effect of a single tower loss weakens, but you need more to sustain your level.

now the biggest settlement has 200+ characters, so they would need 5 times the towers to be the same level as a settlement of under 50.
But have the numbers to back holding those towers, though it would be a bit harder.

You see a sweet spot appears in the equation, a Settlement between 50 to 149 players has ease of levels and the numbers to back it.
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KevinPhoenix
so if there isn't a list, can anyone tell me where to find:
    hemp, and
    ordered essence
thx

South west corner of the map
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Azure_Zero
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Yep the two largest settlements would get one hell of a boost, and new players would flock to them,
Hence why my example equation before only gave smaller settlements the boost, with the biggest needing to choose.

Azure, small settlements were never meant to survive in this game.

No. They were meant to grow and gain new people. If all the people flock to 2 settlements, though, then there can't really be any multi-settlement kingdoms, which was also intended in the game.

Exactly, the smaller settlements are suppose to grow. but if they get hindered by a new design spec, you'll be left folks moving to large settlement and with only very large settlements left you'll have a Red vs Blue stick.

If goblinworks wants their to be many settlements and many groups with various fights going on, they need to help the smaller settlements and hinder the biggest ones. They need to get players to spread out and create diversity.
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Honey in Stead of Vinegar:

Leave the number of towers the same as they are currently in EE3.

Add a mechanic, so that every tower beyond X towers, you gain y amount of Knowledge AND Gathering as a bonus for all members. This would give an incentive for people to become 'more engaged' with towers, given that the primary benefit of owning a bunch of towers now is raising your training capabilities, which are largely an allowance for 'down the road' given xp being the primary 'delay' from being able to use that extra training ceiling.

This would give tangible reasons for everyone to participate, knowing that they will increase their gathering / drop-rates-from-mobs by being more aggressive in the war. This further helps by pushing forward the economic seeding that we're suppose to be doing, given that we are the pioneers and seedlings for the robust economy that is suppose to develop from our gardening efforts.

One could also consider adding an Encumbrance bonus from owning towers, this would also help in the movement of supplies, encouraging people to carry larger loads, which means more attractive PVP targets if you can catch someone moving material.

Given that the War of Towers is temporary AND the fact that we are in the seeding stage of the game world, it makes sense to me to incentivize not penalize to get this war going.smile

I agree other than the fact that the big 2 would receive the vast majority of this boost, and incentivize people moving to them.

Yep the two largest settlements would get one hell of a boost, and new players would flock to them,
Hence why my example equation before only gave smaller settlements the boost, with the biggest needing to choose.
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Welcome to City 17, Stilachio Thrax.
It's safer here. smile

Sorry could not resist a half-life reference
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Oh, that is not deities based.

That is NPC quest based.

There are about 6+ priests in any one settlement, they are scattered about the settlement.
Walk around the whole settlement to find them all
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@Atheory
Thanks for the clarification, and I can somewhat under stand that point.
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I think a formula should be made, one such that bigger companies would need to make a choice; recruit, or keep their level.
But it should also limit the number of towers anyone can hold (say 12) to help force the hard choice.
Example equation:
Settlement_Level = 6 + ( N_Towers / (round_up( (Total_Settlement_Pop) / 50 )));

This formula will also help the smaller settlements recruit more players since the bigger one will slow down their recruitment drive and give the smaller settlements a chance to recruit.
Since new players will want (security and community) and the power of their facilities and the biggest ones provide that, so they naturally gravitate to them.
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Azure_Zero
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I think a formula should be made, one such that bigger companies would need to make a choice; recruit, or keep their level.
But it should also limit the number of towers anyone can hold (say 12) to help force the hard choice.
Example equation:
Settlement_Level = 6 + ( N_Towers / (round_up( (Total_Settlement_Pop) / 50 )));

This formula will also help the smaller settlements recruit more players since the bigger one will slow down their recruitment drive and give the smaller settlements a chance to recruit.
Since new players will want (security and community) and the power of their facilities and the biggest ones provide that, so they naturally gravitate to them.
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Nope, Deities are not in yet.
and no one has the list except the Devs
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