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All posts created by Lucius

Lucius
Zax
Shoulds Woulds Coulda.

There shouldn't be as many settlements, player population proves this point. With fewer settlements, there would have been fewer "Power Blocks". With fewer "Power Blocks" there could have been more of a chance that the aforementioned "little guys" could band together with other "little guys" to form their own "Power Block".

Realize what game you are playing.

This is a game of territory and controlling that territory by various means. True, the mechanics are not all there. True, the playerbase is not as populous as it was projected to be. However, this is a game where you will get pushed on the playground. If you can't handle that, then maybe this is mot the game for you. If you cannot use diplomacy or are unwilling to work with others, you are not going to have a good time.

Realize who you are as a player.

Why do you play this game? What do you want from PFO? There are always prices to pay when playing a territorial sandbox. Be it having to be alert when gathering, or taking down an escalation, you have to be on your toes.

Though we all wait to see what "Newcorp." will do, who they are, what they hope to achieve, we currently have what we have. A territorial sandbox with a low population. Please play accordingly…

Taking up the old EoX mantle eh?

Broken game is broken …. thats fine an all if ya can find yourself enjoying it still …. lets not pretend that the hold it has is not tenuous and that its current state is not easily toppled into a broken mess. We all kno territory dont matter one g**dam lick and nothing being blamed on it is done because of need. Any victory is fleeting when theirs no limits its just a boring game of waiting to see who gets bored and goes home first.

While im just rephrasing waht those have sed before it does bare repeating … at this tipping point we are as responsible for the communitys well being as we are for our own actions within it. Im as disappointed in my own groups decsions as Im with some of the outsiders but if we kill what little we have in the name of staving off boredom in a broken halfcompleted game then I guess we got what we deserve. While I was against it before it only goes to show that a fresh slate might not be such a bad idea.
Lucius
Bringslite
Lucius
But he didnt and ya didnt offer options yerself either. What was done matters not what might happen or could have happened. What was publicly said was come join us, nothing to worry about, we got free stuff, sure ya can always leave. Things that are true for any group still playing. Nothing about the recruiting group was said, nothing about others or how the general community is split up was said. Just a bunch of words anyone could say and might get a body in the door. Exactly like my experience by players just as old. Lets not pretend that such techniques arent used to take advantage of new people and its hard to tell the difference from the outside. Now I wont say a one off occasion like this has dropped anyone in mine eyes but if it becomes a thing I would have to say I would be disappointed.

Your problem with my post is…. your problem. I have spent many hours helping new players and even giving away gear by the metric ton. Some got some gear, some questions answered, and some advice including applying to groups other than those in the alliance that I belong to. I don't expect special recognition. Just giving another new player an option. Once we spend time with him, we would (as would he) know if he fits.

If the OP had come on here and written something more like "Hi I'm new. What is all this about? How does this stuff work? What should I be doing?" my response would have been: "Come to our teamspeak. I'll help you out and you need not join at all." I've done it probably 50+ times that way.

He came here and wrote "Looking for a team" though. Get yourself a cool drink and plz think before you write condescending things.

Same excuse I was fed last time I. Guess I was wrong my opinion has dropped yer just like the others too busy staring in the mirror to see anything from an outside perspective.

Good luck op sorry criticism derailed yer thread this much but had to be said.
Lucius
But he didnt and ya didnt offer options yerself either. What was done matters not what might happen or could have happened. What was publicly said was come join us, nothing to worry about, we got free stuff, sure ya can always leave. Things that are true for any group still playing. Nothing about the recruiting group was said, nothing about others or how the general community is split up was said. Just a bunch of words anyone could say and might get a body in the door. Exactly like my experience by players just as old. Lets not pretend that such techniques arent used to take advantage of new people and its hard to tell the difference from the outside. Now I wont say a one off occasion like this has dropped anyone in mine eyes but if it becomes a thing I would have to say I would be disappointed.
Lucius
Stilachio Thrax
Lucius
A similar pitch was offered to me a few minutes after I was first up and running around luckily I stuck with the game and moved onto another group even before the great slowdown…alot of the others that got gobbled by the same pitch did not and if they came back would find no one to play with. Seeing such again leaves a bad taste in my mouth sorry if I offend but once was enough.

Besides anyone stickin here at this point gonna turn down first chance at a fresh recruit?

Given Bringslite has been in the game since EE started (he may have even been in Alpha) and Staalgard is being built up by established players who are part of a larger established alliance, your concern is unfounded. It's unfortunate you feel burned by your experience, but you shouldn't call out someone recruiting without knowing them and their group.

Yall want all recruiting to boil down to don't worry about it just join us? Age matters not a damn lots of players still around from the start some of them aint all that great people but I doubt for one moment they think theyre the villain or doers of lesser wrongs. Try looking at a post like that as an outsider and see how that sorta recruitment attitude comes across. Not saying ya are as were close to neighbors and ive even ran with a few of ya but if someone were yer greatest enemy how would ya feel seeing that sort of recruitment post? Take the rest of us into consideration instead of just yer buddies.
Lucius
A similar pitch was offered to me a few minutes after I was first up and running around luckily I stuck with the game and moved onto another group even before the great slowdown…alot of the others that got gobbled by the same pitch did not and if they came back would find no one to play with. Seeing such again leaves a bad taste in my mouth sorry if I offend but once was enough.

Besides anyone stickin here at this point gonna turn down first chance at a fresh recruit?
Lucius
Bringslite
Ma3gor
hello im new and no idea what to do, looking for a group or something lol.

Hi Ma3gor,

Lets make this easy for you.
Ingame go to upper left corner of screen. Click the left most tower icon. In the search line type Staalgard. From results, click on Staalgard High Council. In the right hand window the company will pop up. Simply click "apply".

Give us a shot with no strings attached. We will train you, answer questions, gear you, and show you around without obligations on your part. If you decide to stay, great! If you want to move on, no hard feelings and all you have to do is enter /vcleave staalgard high council. We just want another person to catch "the fever" and stay in the game.

This is a new player city. You can get in at the beginning and help build it up. Great location north of the start zone(Thorn Keep) and a miner and crafter and monster slayer's paradise.

Hope to see your App soon!

Bringslite

Not cool man, not cool at all. That there is one of the sketchiest recruitment attempts this side of those who will not be named.
Lucius
arty155jln
Lucius
How is any of that sorta thing gonna matter or work when there are thousands of players and hundreds to thousands of companies?! Settlements are already the smallest organizational unit for any sort of personal discussion, sh*t I would say it might be too large already to be much more useful than as a press corp.

While the info was a bit of a heads up if yer people were there ya would know immediately, it got to us in minutes and we didn't even send anyone to the damn meeting! We were gonna do what we did anyways so it dont matter much but I could see some need to be a bit careful with the intel side of things tho in this case nothing was particularly actionable as none of the final ramifications are gonna be cemented for a little while anyways.

Kinda all circles back to my still unanswered question: what the hell does anyone think is a better option for talking to the playerbase in depth? I'll give ya announcement like stuff can be blasted out or posted somewhere but what sort of meaningful discussion mechanism do ya think is gonna work on a typical MMO population that will relieve yall complaints about crowdforging?
I guess I fail to see how player bans are even an issue with crowdforging. Crowdforging to my limited understanding is for the purpose of shaping the gameplay of the world, not for dealing with EULA violations. I believe the only reason any of this is currently an issue is because of how low the population is, and the potential negative PR that could come from this issue, all at a critical time before NewCorp takes over. If this same thing was to happen a year from now, I highly doubt it would have been handled in the same manner.

Honestly the only reason I'm posting now, is because there are no active threads in the crowdforging. The bans happened, and the player-base is already moving on.

I'll give ya that. This specific case don't count as crowdforging but someone brought it up as ther complain and thats what I'm responding to.
Lucius
How is any of that sorta thing gonna matter or work when there are thousands of players and hundreds to thousands of companies?! Settlements are already the smallest organizational unit for any sort of personal discussion, sh*t I would say it might be too large already to be much more useful than as a press corp.

While the info was a bit of a heads up if yer people were there ya would know immediately, it got to us in minutes and we didn't even send anyone to the damn meeting! We were gonna do what we did anyways so it dont matter much but I could see some need to be a bit careful with the intel side of things tho in this case nothing was particularly actionable as none of the final ramifications are gonna be cemented for a little while anyways.

Kinda all circles back to my still unanswered question: what the hell does anyone think is a better option for talking to the playerbase in depth? I'll give ya announcement like stuff can be blasted out or posted somewhere but what sort of meaningful discussion mechanism do ya think is gonna work on a typical MMO population that will relieve yall complaints about crowdforging?
Lucius
Midnight
Lucius
Don't ya ever get tired of being contrary and bitter about everything?

Fer Crowdforging they used a multiprong approach already! They've done a vote, polling surveys, that issue site thing way back for awhile, forum conversations, and a tiny bit in the council thing. What did ya expect crowdforging was gonna be? Every single thing put to some huge community vote? Cause that would have made ya happy if a vote didn't go yer way? Or hell how do ya guarantee significant participation or avoid multiboxers not rocking the vote over people just quitting quietly when things change? And does basing everything on popular opinion sound like a brilliant plan?

It's almost like they might have thought that out a bit and realized a layered approach is the best solution! Course I suppose that's unlikely cause from yer point of view they're idiots who can't be trusted and yer the genius that knows how to save us all from our own stupidity!

What do ya think the council thing is doing? They get talked at and get to have a little Q/A and feedback, sure as hell easier to have a direct conversation with 20 to 30 people than hundreds or eventually thousands. I would hope yer leadership represents yer views or if they don't ya get someone there that does. What did yer leadership say after they went? Oh wait they didn't bother going or sending anyone. Sounds like the problem isn't the rest of us but yerself or yer own house.

Everyone has things they do and don't want to see happen when NewCorp takes over. I mentioned one of mine.

I never claimed to know how to save anyone from their own stupidity.

I simply want to participate in the crowdforging I paid to participate in.

Bitter? Well, at least disappointed when I don't get what was marketed to me.

By the way, you have little clue how many settlements my accounts belong to.

Explain what precisely ya thought crowdforging was gonna be? How are ya participating any less than the rest of us? Do ya think the only crowdforging that has occurred was the gnome vote or sumthin? Are ya claiming none of yer apparent many settlement leaders represent ya or arent participating in the council part of things?

Explain yerself if ya want to be understood cause it looks like yer shaking yer fist at everyone and acting just a wee bit condescending. What did ya expect and how did ya think it was gonna work and why the hell would it be better?
Lucius
Don't ya ever get tired of being contrary and bitter about everything?

Fer Crowdforging they used a multiprong approach already! They've done a vote, polling surveys, that issue site thing way back for awhile, forum conversations, and a tiny bit in the council thing. What did ya expect crowdforging was gonna be? Every single thing put to some huge community vote? Cause that would have made ya happy if a vote didn't go yer way? Or hell how do ya guarantee significant participation or avoid multiboxers not rocking the vote over people just quitting quietly when things change? And does basing everything on popular opinion sound like a brilliant plan?

It's almost like they might have thought that out a bit and realized a layered approach is the best solution! Course I suppose that's unlikely cause from yer point of view they're idiots who can't be trusted and yer the genius that knows how to save us all from our own stupidity!

What do ya think the council thing is doing? They get talked at and get to have a little Q/A and feedback, sure as hell easier to have a direct conversation with 20 to 30 people than hundreds or eventually thousands. I would hope yer leadership represents yer views or if they don't ya get someone there that does. What did yer leadership say after they went? Oh wait they didn't bother going or sending anyone. Sounds like the problem isn't the rest of us but yerself or yer own house.